Movies that should never be riffed by the MST3K gang

Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie. :wink:

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They should never have done Deathstalker II for the Live Tour.

I think they were in a bit of a jam because they originally promoted Deathstalker I and then realized ā€œOh shootā€¦ if we cut out all the nudity and rapey stuff itā€™s only 10 minutes long!ā€ So they did Deathstalker II, which is as much of a serious sword-and-sorcery movie as Evil Dead 2 is a serious horror movie. They edit they showed cut a lot of the jokes to try and hide the fact that Deathstalker 2 was a satire of the sort of movies Deathstalker 1 ripped off.

Whoops, wrong thread. :laughing:

Oh, I think the jokey/satirical air still came across fine. The inevitable giddiness of being able to see everyone live probably contributed to that, too: at least for me.

Deadpool. Frank has stated on the Mads podcast that itā€™s officially the most riff proof movie since it constantly riffs itself.

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Any and all films can, nay, should be riffed.

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Which version of Heaven Can Wait? (Though the two most famous versions would both be awful riffed.)

Cowards!

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Iā€™m pretty sure they learned their lesson with Hamlet, but Shakespeare should never be riffed. I think that most audiences would be hard-pressed to understand Elizabethan English anyway, but trying to riff it? Darn well impossible, I think. Not that it canā€™t be made VERY funny (see: The Complete Works of William Shakespeare by the Reduced Shakespeare Co.), but trying to riff an original play? Guh.

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I tend to be a ā€œanything is riffableā€ person, but could propose Schindlerā€™s List as at least ā€œincredibly difficultā€ if not impossible to do now.

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I mean, obviously, porn.

At least I think thatā€™s obvious.

ā€œTHATā€™S NOT HOW YOU FIX THE CABLE, BUDDY!ā€

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ā€œIf youā€™re going to order a pizza, you should probably make sure you can pay for it before the guy shows up.ā€

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Iā€™ve only seen the second HCW.

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Warren Beatty? I like that one.

Now, to make things confusing, the original movie was called Here Comes Mr. Jordan, which has been remade many times. (Chris Rock was in a version.)

One of my favorite movies ever is the 1943 Ernst Lubitch Heaven Can Wait, which is about a rouƩ who regrets his earthly behavior and so decides to go straight to hell, where he tells his life story to the Devil.

Thing is, Here Comes Mr. Jordan is based on a play calledā€¦ā€œHeaven Can Waitā€. So the movie HCMJ was based on the play HCW which title Beatty resurrected for his version of HCMJā€¦and oh no Iā€™ve gone crosseyed.

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To invoke the phrase some movies have it coming

Not all films are built for riffing, thereā€™s just the right combination of competent yet incompetent with a dash of sincerity that makes a good riffable movie.

I mean Iā€™d love to see them try to take apart some impossible to riff movies but I have a feeling it would be painful for everyone involved

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You donā€™t think so? I bet it could be a gaā€¦umā€¦yā€™know what? Youā€™re probably right. Best to leave that one be.

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You think so? It might bring new meaning to ā€œDeep Hurtingā€.

Besides, riffing and mocking porn is already covered by The Cinema Snob.

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The last entry on this page also has apropos infos: http://www.mst3kinfo.com/mstfaq/msties.html

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Iā€™d give anything to see the fan letter or email they got from Dan Fogelberg (R.I.P.)

You know, I kind of agree with you.

Thereā€™s only so much ā€œPolonius behind the drapesā€ one can do, and these riffs turned up elsewhere.

Itā€™s a bit of a chore. And FTR, my field is in Comp. Lit., so, I donā€™t actually care too much about UK literature. I mean, itā€™s OK and stuff, but I worked on Old French, for example, rather than OE, and donā€™t have much to say about Norse myths and all that.

Except within the past few years working with and on the Finnish language, but that has nothing to do with anything, except by borrowed words.

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